tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8736129185935358578.post1833308863422683969..comments2023-10-21T07:45:44.140-07:00Comments on JimFear138 Audio Productions: Pedantry: Let's Kill Fantasy!JimFear138http://www.blogger.com/profile/15432837450993153064noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8736129185935358578.post-53213331311277500342018-05-02T16:28:53.572-07:002018-05-02T16:28:53.572-07:00It's an attempt to force Hard SF tropes onto t...It's an attempt to force Hard SF tropes onto the fantasy genre. We don't need that, that's what killed the adventure in science fiction. It's not world building, it's an exposition dump. If you are going to fill in details as you will make those details interesting.<br /><br />Robert E. Howard does it. Lovecraft does it. Burroughs does it. No excuse for going on for seven pages describing the town youare walking through. MegaBusterShepardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05209462775505123050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8736129185935358578.post-10683497529471434722017-09-24T23:13:40.071-07:002017-09-24T23:13:40.071-07:00Yeah, pretty much. The only real difference is tha...Yeah, pretty much. The only real difference is that, if you go back and read LOTR, all of the information Tolkien gave was vital to world building and the story itself. Most of the stuff this guy is asking for is just needless information that in all likelihood has no relevance to the story whatsoever. He just wants to seem smarter than other people while not telling good, engaging stories that don't put people to sleep out of sheer boredom. Jim Fearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00428223329362056174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8736129185935358578.post-47826440108417237882017-09-24T19:34:25.215-07:002017-09-24T19:34:25.215-07:00Jim
it's also showing Off. Lookatme I'm a...Jim <br />it's also showing Off. Lookatme I'm as erudite and detailed like Tolkien but with intersectionalism! xavierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15924047562026242210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8736129185935358578.post-21086819412402316102017-09-20T22:16:50.153-07:002017-09-20T22:16:50.153-07:00Exactly. This kind of pedantry is fun for world-bu...Exactly. This kind of pedantry is fun for world-building, but so far as story goes it's completely irrelevant. Unless it bears on the story, it's needless pedantry that just extends the book length beyond what it really needs to be to satisfy this sperglord's hunger for ridiculous world detail. Jim Fearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00428223329362056174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8736129185935358578.post-56419509242932155832017-09-20T21:27:03.185-07:002017-09-20T21:27:03.185-07:00So he doesn't want literature he wants monogra...So he doesn't want literature he wants monographs from the Annales by Braudel and company. Fine. I immensely enjoyed reading them and was fortunate to read the stuff in French. In fact I have one of Braudel's smaller booklet on the Mediterranean culture which is very helpful for world building.<br />But it's not literature<br />xavier Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8736129185935358578.post-5821623942929804342017-09-08T02:08:24.471-07:002017-09-08T02:08:24.471-07:00Fucking Preach!
I mean even looking at Tolkien, w...Fucking Preach!<br /><br />I mean even looking at Tolkien, who I've mistakenly labelled as the worst offender in this regard, there's actually not a whole lot of bloat on LOTR. Everything the characters go through is a vignette that brings a small part of this world into very sharp focus, and leads on to the next part of the story. I recently listened to the audiobooks with an ear for this kind of bloat, and I couldn't find any whatsoever. <br /><br />LOTR is tight as fuck, my dude. <br /><br />Most modern fantasy novels are pseudo-intellectual wankfests of the caliber described in that tweetstorm.<br /><br />This idiot thinks he's helping, but he's working towards the destruction of the thing he cares enough about to work out all these ways to "make it better". It's fucking cancer, and no mistake.<br /><br />This kind of shit needs to be slapped down without mercy.Jim Fearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00428223329362056174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8736129185935358578.post-50978458828161231172017-09-07T21:12:38.123-07:002017-09-07T21:12:38.123-07:00We need more 200 page fantasy novels. That's t...We need more 200 page fantasy novels. That's the sort of thing that would hook people turned off by the bloat: which is a lot of people.<br /><br />But I have to say, I don't care about anything he mentioned. I have an imagination and I fill the gaps my way. What's important is what is happening in the story.JD Cowanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03548340507655076198noreply@blogger.com